HOW was the meeting? That was the
first thing that Fidel asked upon greeting one by
one the foreign guests invited to the International
Colloquium on the Bicentenary, organized by Casa de
las Americas: Carmen Bohórquez and Walter Martínez
of Venezuela, Atilio Borón and Claudio Kats of
Argentina, Pablo González Casanova, Ana Esther
Ceceńa and Beatriz Stolowicz of Mexico, Manuel
Monereo of Spain and Marcia Leiseca, vice president
of the Cuban institution that had brought them
together in Havana.
The dialogue immediately moved on to
the most newsworthy and significant event in the
region: the two speeches, very closely connected in
essence, which were made the previous evening by
Hugo Chávez and Evo Morales, each one in different
settings. The former, during the meeting convened by
the Venezuelan National Assembly in response to the
international ultra-right forum that had taken place
a few days previously in the U.S. Congress; and
Evo’s address to the cream of the hemisphere’s
armies, including the U.S. Secretary of Defense
Robert Gates, who were meeting in Santa Cruz de la
Sierra for the 9th Conference of Defense Ministers
of the Americas (CDMA).
Both leaders, in their own
particular styles, had caught the Comandante’s
interest, who followed them via television and press
reports. "Evo was phenomenal. Chávez headed up a
zimbombazo (tremendous bombshell)…" he
commented, adding that he would have to send thanks
to the Loba Feroz (the Big, bad wolf, the
Cuban nickname for Ileana Ros-Lethinen) for the
political lack of taste that provided an opportunity
to show our peoples and the world the nature of
imperial strategies against leaders of the left in
the region.
Still in the anteroom of the
meeting, Haiti was the other issue of common
interest, prompting in this case the most distressed
comments. Fidel called their attention to the 2,153
dead and more than 60,000 infected with cholera –
according to UN figures – which is leading to a
"colossal disaster" in that sister nation. He
described as shameful the fact that not one word of
this drama was mentioned in meetings like the NATO
Summit in Lisbon, "where they are talking about
cannons while in Haiti thousands are dying en
masse."
Atilio Borón added another political
element: pressure on the part of Americans and
Europeans who, in the midst of that critical
humanitarian situation, have gone there to tell the
Haitians that "there is no reason to postpone the
elections."
"A country where more than 250,000
people have died…" questioned Fidel, who minutes
before had conveyed to the guests the impressions
that he is constantly receiving from Cuban health
brigades in that country, more than 700 including
doctors, nurses and technical personnel.
They have been joined by 193
graduates from the Latin American School of Medicine
(ELAM) representing 18 nationalities, among them
many Haitian doctors, part of a formidable force of
500 health professionals trained totally in Cuba.
Cuban collaboration in that country
has been constant since 1998. In the wake of the
earthquake, and the more recent cyclone and
epidemic, the accumulated experience of more than 10
years has made it possible for the Cuban Medical
brigade to move beyond the limits of in-patient
treatment and reach victims living in parks, in
tents and any of the improvised spaces left behind
by the disaster.
That has made it possible that while
the overall death rate in the country is currently
six deaths per 100 people, they have barely a 1.1
percent mortality rate. "Really, with our people the
only ones who die are those who are almost dead
already."
The U.S. and European pretension of
forcing elections there this Sunday, despite those
conditions was described by Fidel as "something very
strange," part of the uncertainty that rules in
today’s world. "I wanted to talk with you about
that, so that you can tell me what you think…," he
explained.
And he once again highlighted as
"two spectacular events" in the midst of this world
situation, the speeches by Hugo Chávez and Evo
Morales the previous day. "That’s the best thing
that has happened," he said, noting the context of
meetings like the G20 in Seoul, or the NATO Summit
in Lisbon. "They have come up against a rebellion,
particularly in the wake of the NATO agreements and
the statement on the right to intervene anywhere in
the world."
As on other occasions, Fidel talked
to his friends about his passion for constantly
keeping abreast of events, the possibility of which
has been notably extended by Internet, given that
one can find within minutes data that would take
months to locate in a traditional library. Then he
noted that, due to the blockade, Cuba is suffering
from a ferocious censorship in relation to fiber
optic cable connections, programs and services on
Internet.
RECOLLECTIONS
In the context of his searches to
ensure exact dates and other information which he
regularly makes use of in his "Reflections," Fidel
traveled back in time to the October Missile Crisis,
which he believes is what cost Nikita Khrushchev his
presidency. "And Kennedy was the one who received
the greatest fright…," he added, a comment supported
by historic evidence in the form of a visit from the
French journalist Jean Daniel, who was meeting with
Fidel when the news came through on the radio of the
assassination in Dallas. Kennedy had asked Daniel to
ascertain from the Cuban leader if he had realized
how close things had come to a nuclear war and to
report back to him on the reply.
Fidel recalled that it was not
Kennedy who invented the Bay of Pigs aggression, the
assassinated president was going along with what was
plotted against Cuba by Eisenhower and Nixon. "And
The New York Times knew all about it and
never published a word." Hence the value of
confirming historical evidence.
Adding other anecdotes related to
the same theme, Fidel said that, for a while, he was
deceived by an enormous 800-page biography by Pierre
Salinger, which advanced the theory of a sole gunman
involved in the death of Kennedy: Lee Harvey Oswald.
But Fidel’s doubts increased, given
his experiences when he was in Mexico preparing the
future revolutionaries who came to Cuba aboard the
Granma yacht. The geometrical methods that he
used to train them in the use of guns and particular
those with telescopic lenses, meant that he knew
that while a very high precision shot can be made
with a supported weapon, it is not possible to
immediately repeat the shot with a hand held gun, as
Oswald is supposed to have done, and much less so if
it is a moving target.
Walter Martínez contributed an
astonishing fact to the conversation: the current
record for that kind of firing is held by a sniper
within the U.S. troops in Afghanistan who, in
November 2009 hit a national combatant located at a
distance of 2.47 kilometers.
The real possibility of the fact
that we are in an era in which there are weapons
capable of sending missiles into space that can
reach more than 20 times the speed of sound, took up
a number of minutes of a conversation in which the
invited figures contributed valuable analyses.
As Pablo González Cassanova affirmed
at the end of the three-hour interchange during, it
was "an immensely enjoyable afternoon." After
questions and comments from the guests in a warm and
relaxed atmosphere, the leader of the Revolution
offered a number of other reflections, of which a
synthesis follows:
NATO
Was it obligatory for Spain to join
NATO under González? What would have happened if he
hadn't done so, when the supposed left won? Now they
are caught up in it. The Greeks were given a
beating; the French uprisings; the British and now
the Irish. The latter hadn't said anything about
what they were going to do, while everyone knew they
would have to ask for a loan of 80 billion euros.
Spain said that isn’t going to ask for anything,
Portugal neither. No one knows, however, how they
are going to maintain their budget deficits.
OBAMA AT A CROSROADS
He is intelligent, expresses himself
well, but is more dangerous now that there is a race
in the United States to see who is more right-wing.
He’s going to compete now, too. He's thinking about
what happened to Clinton and Reagan, who lost
popularity and then made gains in the polls when
they ventured into a confrontation. What is Obama
going to do next? A war?
STATE OF DENIAL
I have seen a certain tendency
toward optimism. Being optimistic is not prohibited,
but I prefer to be realistic given the current
international situation, now marked by the
confrontation between the two Koreas and in the
midst of a profound economic crisis. It reminds me
of what Alan Robock – the U.S. scientist who visited
us – said. He spoke of a 'state of denial.' What
could happen is so terrible that people prefer not
to think about it. The 'state of denial' is
generalized.
It's not that I want a war,
absolutely not. On the contrary. I think, however,
with realism and I see that a handful of madmen are
on the loose playing Russian roulette. Does anyone
know what the Israelis will do? What is going to
happen with Iran? What will occur in Pakistan? And
there are other questions: why did the CIA protect
Bin Laden? They knew that in September of 2001, he
was in a military hospital in Pakistan (in
Rawalpindi), for dialysis. The CBS journalist Dan
Rather reported it and I found out about it from
Michel Chossudovsky, editor of the Global Research
website.
'DECRITICALIZATION'
Michel Chossudovsky opened our eyes
to something that I didn't know: NATO – Germany and
other members – have tactical nuclear weapons. The
definition of tactical nuclear weapons implies a
power that ranges from a third of the one dropped on
Hiroshima to six times the strength of that bomb.
And they talk to us about 'decriticalizing',
lowering the critical mass of the nuclear weapons
to, supposedly, make the stockpiles safer.
When they say this, I think of Harry
Truman, who was a tremendous cynic, since he knew
full well what he was doing when he attacked a
defeated Japan with nuclear weapons. He knew that
the war was about to end and rushed ahead to use the
atomic weapon. On August 6, 1945, he dropped the
first bomb on Hiroshima. It was a uranium one and it
obliterated the city. Three days later, he dropped
the second, of plutonium, on Nagasaki. How the
survivors suffered, with the radiation! And more
than 100,000 died instantly with each bomb.
I remember when Khrushchev tested a
50-megaton bomb, in the northern polar regions of
the Soviet Union and the radiation spread
everywhere. It was the largest bomb ever detonated
at the time. He, nevertheless, said that there was
an even more powerful one: he called it a 'weapon of
total destruction.' There has been no more talk of
this weapon, neither has the cobalt bomb been much
discussed. History can be ugly, don't you think?
WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD THAT NOTHING
WILL HAPPEN?
Alan Robock has proven that a
confrontation between India and Pakistan, in which
100 of the weapons possessed by these countries are
used, would be enough to create an eight-year
nuclear winter. He talked with us during the days in
which the Japanese Cruiseship for Peace also
visited. The Japanese spoke of how aggrieved they
felt as a result of what was done to them. The
United States has a government hated by the
greatest, most diverse, number of people in the
world.
They have signed an agreement to
reduce the number of nuclear artifacts to 1,550 –
the United States and Russia – but what difference
is there between 1,550 and 500, if a nuclear winter
can be created with 100 and nothing would be left. I
am warning: I know that the Russians and the Chinese
are worried about this; the news agencies don't
publish a lot about what people think. I am holding
onto the hope that nothing will happen. But what is
the likelihood that, at any given time, a nuclear
bomb could be unleashed?
DIRTY POLITICS
As a result of the accord signed by
the super-powers during the Clinton administration,
the yankees agreed to build a nuclear electrical
power plant in North Korea, which would have cost
three billion dollars at that time, to produce 800
megawatts of electricity. One year before I became
ill, we were immersed in a great battle to save
electricity. The price of nickel was up and we
bought 30 million highly efficient light bulbs from
China which we sent to the Democratic People’s
Republic of Korea, which had always offered us its
solidarity. Do you know what those light bulbs
meant? Koreans saved the equivalent of more than two
nuclear plants like those promised by the U.S. in
previous agreements. Around 2,000 megawatts. The
North Koreans worked hard to distribute those light
bulbs. The U.S. was playing with Korea during that
nuclear power plant experience. Now, they cannot
frighten the Koreans, they will never again
intimidate them. And not the Iranians either.
The U.S. is also playing with
Pakistan, which is supposedly its ally, but they
don’t even inform it when they’re going to bomb
within Pakistani territory. They do so after having
launched the bombs. They're afraid for them to know
beforehand. It's dirty politics and they've reached
the limit.
THE U.S. CANNOT COUNT ON ISRAEL
Do you believe that the United
States can save the world? The U.S. can't even count
on Israel. It lives under constant blackmail from
Israel, which they have begged for three months now
to stop building new settlements in Golan, and
they're giving Israel 20 F-35 [fighter aircraft]
while they have promised 20 more. The U.S. is
selling Saudi Arabia 60 billion dollars worth of
weapons, possibly up to 90 billion, for weapons
which are inferior to those that the Israelis have.
They may be useful for military training purposes,
for parades or something like that.
ANOTHER MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM
There is another, even more serious
problem that we have to consider. Are the planet's
resources well distributed when we have countries
with an excess of resources and others lacking land
and water? We are headed for 10 billion inhabitants
in 40 years. We are held hostage to this
partitioning of the world carried out by the
conquerors of the planet and who converted more than
a few countries into colonies. What globalized world
are we talking about?
NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING BORED
As if there were not enough
complications already, reports have recently begun
to appear talking about anti-matter. I said to
myself: What's this? Even more problems? Much has
been said about the Big Bang, and about how the
virtually infinite quantity of matter seen in the
universe emerged from that great explosion. The Big
Bang, never before questioned, is now being doubted.
Now there is talk of how at the beginning there was
matter and anti-matter and one of these, matter,
predominated, but that scientists have managed to
create particles of anti-matter which last up to one
tenth of a second. So you see where the new theories
are headed, there's no need for you to worry about
getting bored. Nevertheless, I would propose you
think about another great question: How will the
great crisis the planet is experiencing be resolved?
WE WARNED SADDAM TO LEAVE KUWAIT
I knew Saddam Hussein. When he was
secretary of the Party and wasn't at war with anyone.
Later, however, he got involved in an unjust war
against Iran, using chemical weapons supplied by the
United States. When he occupied Kuwait, we tried to
persuade Saddam to withdraw from that country. I
told him: The yankees are going to invade Iraq,
there won't be anyone able to help you. Iraq is not
Vietnam; Iraq is a barren desert. No one could even
get a weapon through. Give the territory back. I
even sent him a letter with a delegation headed by
José Ramón Fernández.
A REASSURANCE
Responding to a question from
Venezuelan historian Carmen Bohórquez, Fidel said,
"I don't think the United States is foolishly
planning to kill Chávez, which would mean a 'burning
Bogotá.' I witnessed what happened when they
assassinated Gaitán; I was participating in a Latin
American university student meeting and that place
burned. There's much more dynamite in Caracas than
there was in Bogotá. Note the cynicism with which
Zuloaga says: We don't want Chávez to die; we want
him to live so he can see how this is going to end.
He said it with hatred, viciously. Chávez knows what
he has to do and his words yesterday made that clear."